A short time ago I posted an article on the stoning of a young Yazidi girl for “consorting with the enemy” and posted a link to the gruesome video footage. The article didn’t really garner much attention, which was a bit surprising to me, but so it goes. Since then, the story has spread like wildfire through the blogosphere and many have come forward with their opinions. Repulsion at the act seems unanimous but there are quite a few bloggers who seem to think that watching the video, or indeed linking to it, is somehow a bad thing. One such blogger is a friend over at the Chapati Kid so I thought I’d take her to task on what I see as a completely skewed point of view (her short intro HERE). Let’s begin.
The Chapati Kid links to THIS article by Joss Whedon, the creator of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel (which contrary to my beliefs are apparently well-liked shows). I should mention, since I was myself surprised to find out, that Joss Whedon is a man… somehow. In his writing on the stoning issue, Mr. Whedon somehow connects to an issue of women’s rights and their status in history. I’ll try and touch upon this too.
First and foremost, let us recognize that without the mobile phone footage, none of this would be an issue. This whole event reached prominence precisely because there was graphic footage of the stoning. So all those up in arms about honor killings and the spread oft graphic live footage (and its effect on our pysches) should shut it. You know that without the footage no one would have given a second thought to it. It seems perverse to say, but it was a very good thing the footage was available.
A lot of people claim that viewing graphic footage of disturbing events desensitizes the viewer. I can see where this is coming from. Movies these days are manifold times more violent than in the past and still the audience demands more gore, more blood. With this in mind, it would be easy to conclude that watching graphic real-life footage would desensitize the viewer to the point that seeing a girl get stoned to death wouldn’t illicit a properly repulsive response (and the ensuing need to take action). I disagree though. Real life footage and movie scenes are not the same and the viewer knows this. I truly believe that there is no way to get desensitized to the fact that a young girl was stoned to death. I could see a hundred cli[s like that and it would still draw the same response out of me, nay, an increasing one each time. The same happened when I saw the graphic footage of the beheadings from Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan some years ago, the WTC towers collapsing, etc. Indeed, in order to get people’s ass in gear I feel it is necessary to watch the videos. This way, the horror is permanently etched into your mind. Some people claim that reading about the incident alone is enough to paint a vivid picture in one’s mind. But come now, be serious. Reading about it engages the intellect and requires you to be creative in order to properly feel the emotions. By tapping one of the five senses, you are simply appealing directly to your primal self. It’s like telling a blind person what water feels like. It makes more sense to just let the person feel water for themselves (for those who read a lot, you know where this is coming from). If we were to subscribe to the “reading about it is good enough” then we wouldn’t have needed all the horrific pictures from the Vietnam War (in particular the My Lai massacre, see pics at left). It was pictures like these that stoked public perception to the point where action was taken. We live in a world that is largely fucked up these days and we should know exactly why it is so. Leave the cocoon behind, it wont be pleasant but it will open your eyes, so to speak.
As a sidenote, Whedon offers the Catherine Genovese episode as an example of our callousness. For what it’s worth, an investigation into the matter revealed that both Gansberg and Ellison (two authors who publicly berated the neighbors for ignoring the episode) were factually incorrect. None of the neighbors actually saw the rape and most only heard parts of a verbal argument … grounds to call the police? I think not. Tragic episode indeed, but hardly an example of how we are becoming callous in our humanity… to rape and sexual abuse of all things. Whedon comes across as a bit of a feminist extremist to me.
And so I believe Joss Whedon is way out of line when he suggests that this is somehow linked to the inferiority of women. Whedon is essentially saying that because men are physically dominant, we have made all the rules, and further, made them somewhat anti-women. He claims fully half of the world’s population has been victimized even unto the present day; That all the major religions are anti-women (untrue). It’s true, history will attest to the fact that women rarely have the same prominence as men (although there are notable exceptions, Cleopatra, Indira Gandhi, the Queens of England, etc.). But is that man’s fault? What of all the music that has been written in the name of women? The artwork inspired by women. Even science and engineering in which women were the driving inspiration. Was it all done solely by feminists? No. I’m sure there are numerous examples where women have been oppressed but it is not something endemic to humankind. It all comes down to the fact man and woman are inherently different and as a result we will never achieve parity. An apple will never be an orange (putting aside genetic manipulation which is a possibility in the future).
Honestly, even nature usually follows the same logic, explain that would you. This is a question of design, whether you consider it divine or scientific. The sexes are where they are because we were/are designed this way. This will likely never change. There are those today that believe they are instigating a radical change in the way women are seen by society. Bullshit, the status quo is and always will be maintained, such is the law of nature. Does this preclude women from becoming leaders, pioneers, scientists, engineers, artists, etc? No, not in the slightest. But will there be a huge paradigm shift where women run everything? No, forgive the crass statement, but they just don’t have the balls. If we were all Black Widow spiders, on the other hand, women would be the dominant sex. Eureka, it all makes sense now. Whedon was a Black Widow spider in his former life.
What happened to young Dua Khalil was abhorrent and extreme. But how did this practice start in the first place? Were women involved in deciding that people of different faiths shouldn’t mix and that the punishment be so extreme? The question that should be asked is this; “Is the general idea correct in that culture and is only the punishment extreme?” It’s like Sati. It seems beyond most western minds that a woman could willingly sacrifice herself on a funeral pyre following the death of her husband but if it was her will in her culture, who is to argue? Of course, the practice was abused (and still is sometimes) and consequently was outlawed in India some time ago. But the foundation of Sati (and similar practices in other cultures, eg. the Vikings) dictated that a man and a woman were bound inseparably but love and commitment. Love and commitment. So you see, the Dua Khalil issue is one of punishment getting way out of hand because of mob mentality, extremism (or whatever other reason). However, the fundamental reason behind the punishment may be culturally sound.
Whedon says he’s snapped, that he’s broken something as result of all the injustice towards women in the world. To be frank, I think the man was broken to begin with. He should stick to Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
I’d be really interested to hear from women. Some of what I’ve written could be construed as extreme, backwards, sexist, ignorant or just whack. Either way, I’d like the chance to discuss.




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I would say that a lot of what you’ve stated rises out of ignorance. Maybe you should imagine what it feels like to be a woman — and get past the playing with your own boobs all day part of it. Personally, I only have to imagine what violence against a woman must be like to understand its gravity and horror. I don’t have to see it. Why? Because as a woman, I’ve been intimidated enough times by men — sometimes just walking down the street and having someone follow me — to not have to watch a woman being abused and violated to understand what it means. It’s too bad you think so little of Joss Whedon. Perhaps if you took the time to educate yourself about the man and his work, and what it means to young women who are trying to empower themselves, you’d have more respect for him. Buffy, as poor an opinion as you have about it, given your ignorance of its greater themes, is not as much about killing vampires as it is about being a woman who can kick ass — literally and figuratively — despite the odds. And that’s why feminists — men and women — love it. So next time you mouth off about Joss, do your homework first.
Also, if you think women aren’t universally oppressed, despite the strides we may have made in urban centres of the world, you need to seriously re-examine where you’re getting your information from.
Wow, smackdown by The_Chapati_Kid
When I initially watched the video, I did not consider it a feminist issue, but a humanist one. Upon further reading, apparently her gender is significant. I do think that these kinds of videos are desensitizing. After the VA tech shootings, attorneys for the networks (not nbc of course) said that showing them puts the US on the same level as the countries where these kinds of crimes happen (and are encouraged) since they always air them to the public as a way to exercise power, fear, and control. It also encourages and strokes the ego’s of the groups who perform these violent acts. This makes sense to me and I definitely don’t disagree with it.
That said, I don’t think that showing videos alone propagates the violence. The types of individuals who condone and commit acts like the stoning are operating on a different moral and value system than say, me or the people with whom I associate. This is a bigger issue than women’s rights….it’s human rights.
Very clever answer Jennifer, I was wondering who would get drawn in and who wouldn’t.
Chapatikid! You got sucked right in. I don’t think I would play with my boobs all day if I was a woman, they’d most likely get sore, and then I’d have to apply lotion… hahaha, that doesn’t sound so bad afterall! Only playing!
Apparently I cannot fathom what it feels like to be intimidated as a woman, because I am not one… I’d beg to differ but I suspect I will have to beg in another article and I don’t want to come across as… you know… a beggar! I did do some research on Mr. Whedon and I suppose his efforts to empower women are somewhat admirable. Still, I also think he is a bit of an extremist and his article on the stoning was miles off topic. Next time Mr. Whedon wants to mouth off about men and foreign cultures, perhaps he should do his homework.
Also, I understand that Buffy was a show about women kicking ass (how could any viewer miss that?) but I still think it wasn’t that great a show… and of course, I am entitled to my own opinion which should be just as worthy as your own. I’m a fan of vampire movies too..
“Women are universally oppressed except for some in urban centers…” Well I totally disagree. You’d have to travel extensively and visit all the major cultures/races and then analyze the interaction between men and women to really see who was on top… it’s a very subtle issue. Is the housewife oppressed because she is a housewife and not a career woman? What if she bosses her hubby around when he comes home, if she is the one who decides what the house looks like, where the kids go to school, who they marry, what career decisions the hubby makes, etc. Is she the oppressor or is she still the oppressed because she is but a housewife?
I fully believe women are smarter than men. So essentially you are saying that because half the world’s population is physically stronger than the other, we’ve come out on top? Come on… most men could be hoodwinked by a woman in ten seconds. I think the physical imbalance is negated by the mental one (which is in women’s favor). The playing field is equal and actually, there is parity (mostly).
Jennugus, you are right, this is an issue of humanity and human rights.
I don’t believe this video was an attempt to exercise fear and control. In this case, the video spread first through the net as a viral video and was then picked up by TV. I don’t believe there was an agenda of fear or control in this particular case (unlike the beheading videos). Just a bunch of (most likely) uneducated wankers posting viral footage on the net. I do agree it could stoke the egos of the perpetrators but it should simultaneously stoke the rage of the just to the point of action (which in this case, it sort of did). Finally I don’t think it lowers the US to the level of the perpetrators to display the footage. I’ll refer back to the pictures of the My Lai massacre. They were horrendous but it was vital they were conveyed to the US public via the media… pictures/movies are the easiest way to educate the public about what is going on. Anyway, you’re right, these guys are on a different moral and ethical system, I don’t think they could be reasoned with… how could you possibly kill a 17 year old girl??
In short, the Dua Khalil episode was a tragedy. Hopefully one where the root causes can be fixed with time, compassion and education. Joss Whedon is still a wanker (sorry Roti!). Buffy sucks (not because she is a woman though) and Alice (from Resident Evil) kicks ass!
Besides, what’s wrong with playing with your boobs all day?
If I was a girl, of course I’d play with my boobs all day. Unfortunately, however, I’m not, so instead, I play with my balls all day.